{"id":5255,"date":"2011-06-09T19:08:00","date_gmt":"2011-06-09T19:08:00","guid":{"rendered":""},"modified":"2020-08-01T16:45:05","modified_gmt":"2020-08-01T21:45:05","slug":"legacy-title-numbering-quick-reference","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/comichron.com\/blog\/2011\/06\/09\/legacy-title-numbering-quick-reference\/","title":{"rendered":"Legacy title numbering: A quick reference"},"content":{"rendered":"
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In the wake of DC’s announced relaunches of its whole line<\/b><\/a> in September,\u00a0 news of another numbering change, this time to Uncanny X-Men<\/b><\/i>, a survivor of past relaunches. David Uzumeri<\/b> at Comics Alliance<\/b><\/a> writes that “as a consequence of the events of Jason Aaron<\/b>‘s X-Men: Schism<\/i><\/b> event series, the stalwart title will end as of October’s #544, giving the crown of longest-running uninterrupted title at the Big Two to… Vertigo’s Hellblazer<\/i><\/b>, of all the unlikely winners.” Hellblazer<\/i> was at #278 in April.<\/p>\n

Increasingly in American comics, longevity records are a complicated matter. Uzumeri is speaking only of Marvel and DC, of course, but there are complications even then. Untouched by the 1990s relaunches, Uncanny X-Men<\/i> did become our poster-child for a Marvel title untouched by renumbering \u2014 but even then, we were having to be careful not to use the phrase “continuously published.” Uzumeri was careful to avoid it in his piece, but it is worth a refreshing of the collective memory that the title does have a couple of blips, one of them fairly large.<\/p>\n

We’ll set aside for a moment the title change from X-Men<\/b><\/i> to Uncanny X-Men<\/i> that happened in #142 \u2014 yes, the cover logo had changed much earlier, but in comics collecting it’s what’s in the indicia that historically has counted. We can also probably ignore the four months the title wasn’t on the racks during the “Age of Apocalypse”; the subscribers received the four copies of Amazing X-Men<\/i><\/b>, which it effectively became for that period, and they continued to receive Uncanny<\/i> immediately after the event ended. The main title was neither renumbered nor taken out of production. The bigger interruption, though, came in 1970. X-Men<\/i> was off the shelves for nine months between issues #66 and #67, a hiatus after which it returned as a bimonthly reprint series.<\/p>\n

So we would give Uncanny<\/i> the Big Two record for uninterrupted numbering up until September; Hellblazer<\/b><\/i>, going since January 1988 does not, at a glance of my records, have any similar production breaks, and would have the claim for the Big Two \u2014 except that Mad<\/b><\/i>, which began as an E.C. comic book and is now published by DC, is on issue #509. Once again, quibbles enter: it’s not comics throughout, and it’s been magazine-sized for decades, since #24. I tend to think it should be included, but it would have a clearer claim if we change our term to “comics publication<\/i>” \u2014 as opposed to the traditionally sized comic book.<\/p>\n

Again, as we’re ta<\/span>lking about unbroken numbering and not publication, that lets out the Marvel titles that will remain in the 600s after Uncanny<\/i> and DC renumber; Amazing Spider-Man, Tales of Suspense\/Captain America, Journey Into Mystery\/Thor, <\/b><\/i>and Tales to Astonish\/Incredible Hulk<\/b><\/i> all were renumbered (not to mention renamed, in the latter three cases). In the Amazing Spider-Man<\/i> case, the series did continue in production the entire time, with subscribers receiving books continuously despite the renumbering; I suspect that’s being done with Fantastic Four\/FF<\/i><\/b>, but it gets a bit harder to argue that it’s the same title when there’s a name change and<\/i> a renumbering. Amazing X-Men<\/i> was not counted in the Uncanny<\/i> numbering, nor was Amazing Scarlet Spider<\/i><\/b> counted with Amazing Spider-Man<\/i>.<\/p>\n

What beats Hellblazer<\/b><\/i> if we go beyond the Big Two? Archie<\/b><\/i>, at #620, would be our candidate for unbroken publication; it was only quarterly when it started in 1942 and it wasn’t always monthly afterward, but at a glance I’m not seeing any big gaps. If we allow for hiatuses, then we go with Walt Disney’s Comics & Stories<\/b><\/i>, which released #715 in January from Boom<\/b>, latest in a line of publishers that includes Dell, Gold Key\/Whitman, Gladstone, Disney, <\/b>Gladstone again, and Gemstone<\/b>. I haven’t heard whether the restaurant giveaway Adventures of the Big Boy<\/b><\/i>, which was in the low 500s in the mid 2000s, is still in production.<\/p>\n

Detective Comics<\/b><\/i> will of course remain the longest-running continuously published American series regardless of numbering \u2014 DC, Marvel, or anyone else \u2014 although it’s interesting to note that Action<\/b> has had the higher numbering for many years. Action<\/i> passed Detective<\/i> in the 1970s, following a bimonthly stretch for Detective<\/i> \u2014 and then it leapt ahead during its year as Action Comics Weekly<\/b><\/i>.<\/p>\n

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As with all things in comics collecting, the definitions can be expanded infinitely \u2014 as does the number of potential quibbles. The highest numbered American comic book series (where the numbers weren’t changed as a stunt) was the second series of Dell Four Color<\/i><\/b>, whose final issue was #1354; several of the numbers were skipped. (And the title on the cover was always changing, anyway, as it was Dell’s catchall for specials and new series. The initial issues of many long-running series are actually part of Dell Four Color<\/i>.)<\/p>\n

The highest-numbered continuously published American comics-related<\/i> publication is Comics Buyer’s Guide<\/b><\/i><\/a>, with #1678, its 40th anniversary issue, now on sale. And going beyond the United States takes us into the weekly comics overseas \u2014 and some really<\/i> high numbers!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

In the wake of DC’s announced relaunches of its whole line in September,\u00a0 news of another numbering change, this time to Uncanny X-Men, a survivor of past relaunches. David Uzumeri at Comics Alliance writes that “as a consequence of the events of Jason Aaron‘s X-Men: Schism event series, the stalwart title will end as of … Read more<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":5256,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":"","_links_to":"","_links_to_target":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[49],"class_list":["post-5255","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-uncategorized","tag-comics-numbering"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/comichron.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5255","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/comichron.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/comichron.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/comichron.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/comichron.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=5255"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/comichron.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5255\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":6550,"href":"https:\/\/comichron.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5255\/revisions\/6550"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/comichron.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/5256"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/comichron.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=5255"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/comichron.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=5255"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/comichron.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=5255"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}