{"id":5702,"date":"2009-06-02T17:24:00","date_gmt":"2009-06-02T17:24:00","guid":{"rendered":""},"modified":"2020-07-28T03:07:16","modified_gmt":"2020-07-28T03:07:16","slug":"detective-comics-sales-in-1940s","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/comichron.com\/blog\/2009\/06\/02\/detective-comics-sales-in-1940s\/","title":{"rendered":"Detective Comics sales in the 1930s and 1940s"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer; width: 227px; height: 320px;\" src=\"https:\/\/comichron.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/06\/Detective27-1.jpg\" alt=\"\" id=\"BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5342774429815712466\" border=\"0\" \/>A query on the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.cbgxtra.com\/default.aspx?tabid=42&amp;view=topic&amp;forumid=17&amp;postid=50931\"><span style=\"font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;\">Comics Buyer&#8217;s Guide<\/span> <span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">boards<\/span><\/a> about the historic nature of <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.comichron.com\/2009\/05\/april-2009-sales-rebound-and-detective.html\"><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">April&#8217;s first-place ranking for <span style=\"font-style: italic;\">Detective Comics<\/span><\/span><\/a> leads me to post a few additional details from the past, including information obtained by <span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">Russ Maheras <\/span>from the only real source of data for the 1930s and 1940s, the <span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">Audit Bureau of Circulation<\/span>.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">Marc Newman <\/span>of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.houseofcomics.com\/\"><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">HouseofComics.com<\/span><\/a> asked whether <span style=\"font-style: italic;\">Detective<\/span> might not have been the top seller prior to the launch of <span style=\"font-style: italic; font-weight: bold;\">Action Comics<\/span>. The challenge here is that in those days, <span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">National Periodical Publications<\/span> (the precursor to DC) sold ads in the &#8220;Detective Comics Group,&#8221; not in individual titles \u2014 and so individual title sales are not known.<\/p>\n<p>However, we can see from Maheras&#8217; ABC research that in January 1939, all the issues on sale from the Detective Comics Group had <span style=\"font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;\">combined<\/span> sales of 709,379 copies. That group in that month for the ABC included&#8230;<\/p>\n<div style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"font-style: italic; font-weight: bold;\">\u2022 Detective Comics<\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-style: italic; font-weight: bold;\">\u2022 More Fun Comics<\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-style: italic; font-weight: bold;\">\u2022 Action Comics<\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-style: italic; font-weight: bold;\">\u2022 Adventure Comics<\/span><\/div>\n<p>&#8230;and any issues that shipped that month would combine for the 709,379. Now, we can&#8217;t really link up specific issue numbers to these titles, because the cover months and the auditing months might not be the same. But we know that at this time, all four books were monthly. So we&#8217;re looking at a four-way split.<\/p>\n<p>Now compare that with <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.comichron.com\/2009\/02\/comics-sales-in-1930s-famous-funnies.html\"><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">Famous Funnies<\/span><\/a>, which alone reported 357,386 copies sold in January of 1939 (and close to it in the months on either side). That, and some of what we see in some other books suggests that the kids&#8217; titles and longer-established strip reprint books were more heavily circulated than the adventure titles before 1938. So my suspicion is that <span style=\"font-style: italic;\">Detective<\/span> probably still wasn&#8217;t #1 in that stage. Adventure comics do come more into vogue in this period \u2014 <span style=\"font-style: italic;\">More Fun<\/span>&#8216;s last humor cover was in early 1938 \u2014 but thereafter I would venture that the combination of <span style=\"font-style: italic;\">Action<\/span> and <span style=\"font-style: italic;\">Superman<\/span> likely preclude chart leadership by <span style=\"font-style: italic;\">Detective<\/span> (or, for that matter, <span style=\"font-style: italic;\">Batman<\/span>, until the 1960s).  That&#8217;s not even getting into the Dell Disney books, which entered <a href=\"http:\/\/www.comichron.com\/yearlycomicssales\/1960s\/1960.html\"><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">1960<\/span><\/a> in the top slot.<\/p>\n<p>We&#8217;re in a realm there where there are some key books where figures will never be known even from the Audit Bureau, but I think this is a decent guess.<\/p>\n<p>Incidentally, you may ask, what issue of <span style=\"font-style: italic;\">Detective Comics<\/span> came out in January 1939, for which the numbers above report? The January 1939 cover-dated issue was <span style=\"font-style: italic;\">Detective<\/span> #23, but with cover post-dating going on, I suspect it well could have been <span style=\"font-style: italic;\">Detective<\/span> #27 (above), featuring the first appearance of Batman. (I imagine that&#8217;s why Maheras picked that month to research!) So from this, we get a fair idea of the starting population of that issue: likely lower than the starting populations of most key Silver Age titles&#8230;.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A query on the Comics Buyer&#8217;s Guide boards about the historic nature of April&#8217;s first-place ranking for Detective Comics leads me to post a few additional details from the past, including information obtained by Russ Maheras from the only real source of data for the 1930s and 1940s, the Audit Bureau of Circulation. 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