{"id":5767,"date":"2009-03-05T02:33:00","date_gmt":"2009-03-05T02:33:00","guid":{"rendered":""},"modified":"2020-07-28T03:07:32","modified_gmt":"2020-07-28T03:07:32","slug":"proto-watchmen-sales-figures-for","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/comichron.com\/blog\/2009\/03\/05\/proto-watchmen-sales-figures-for\/","title":{"rendered":"Proto-Watchmen: Sales figures for Charlton&#8217;s hero titles"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer; width: 200px; height: 305px;\" src=\"https:\/\/comichron.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/03\/CaptainAtom83-1.jpg\" alt=\"\" id=\"BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5309540662134009874\" border=\"0\" \/>I thought I&#8217;d exhausted all the answers the Comichron database potentially had on <span style=\"font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;\">Watchmen<\/span> questions \u2014 but this week is throwing some curveballs. I&#8217;ve had several requests in the last few days for information about the Charlton super-hero titles from the 1960s, specifically the characters that were the partial inspiration for the Watchmen.<\/p>\n<p>The challenge here is that Charlton comics circulated in fewer numbers than those of almost any other publisher that filed circulation statements in the 1960s; check out the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.comichron.com\/yearlycomicssales\/1960s.html\"><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">rankings from the individual years<\/span><\/a>, and you can see how far down they rank. And while I have Statements of Ownership from at least 34 different Charlton series \u2014 ranging from <span style=\"font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;\">Fightin&#8217; Army<\/span> to <span style=\"font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;\">Sick<\/span> to <span style=\"font-style: italic; font-weight: bold;\">Teen-Age Love<\/span> \u2014 not many have been turned up for the super-hero titles as yet. Of the five major Charlton players related to Watchmen, about the only data I have relates to one character: Captain Atom, the precursor to Doctor Manhattan. But it&#8217;s spread across two \u2014 or three \u2014 titles, depending on how you look at it.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 157px; height: 237px;\" src=\"https:\/\/comichron.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/03\/SpaceAdventures33-1.jpg\" alt=\"\" id=\"BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5309540972354699970\" border=\"0\" \/>Captain Atom debuted in <span style=\"font-weight: bold;\"><span style=\"font-style: italic;\">Space Adventures<\/span> #33<\/span>, the March 1960 issue \u2014 and we can see from the partial results reported on the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.comichron.com\/titlespotlights\/spaceadventures.html\"><span style=\"font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;\">Space Adventures<\/span><\/a> page that that issue probably sold an anemic 110,000 copies, a ninth as much as the best-selling title of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.comichron.com\/yearlycomicssales\/1960s\/1960.html\"><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">1960<\/span><\/a>, <span style=\"font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;\">Uncle Scrooge<\/span>. Charlton&#8217;s market penetration was simply too poor, then and forever: We know from the <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.comichron.com\/2008\/08\/comics-market-shares-1959-according-to.html\"><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">market shares for 1959<\/span><\/a> suggested by the <span style=\"font-style: italic;\">Ayer<\/span> <span style=\"font-style: italic;\">Directory<\/span> that its market share was less than 10%. Charlton cited sales of 2.5 million copies monthly in that year \u2014 and its slate was large enough that nothing under that umbrella was probably doing better than 150,000. Looking at the non-hero books I have info on, I rather doubt  that any Charlton book topped 200,000 in the 1960s at all \u2014 not until <span style=\"font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;\">The Flintstones<\/span>, which Charlton inherited from <span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">Gold Key<\/span>.<\/p>\n<p>Anyway, in addition to the new (if incomplete) <span style=\"font-style: italic;\">Space Adventures<\/span> page is a page for the title Atom departed for in 1965: <span style=\"font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;\">Strange Suspense Stories<\/span>, another book with a lot of Ditko work and with one of the most tortuous name-changing progressions I&#8217;ve ever seen for a comic book. No, really \u2014 <span style=\"font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;\">Lawbreaker<\/span> to <span style=\"font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;\">Lawbreaker Supense Stories<\/span> to <span style=\"font-style: italic;\">Strange Suspense Stories<\/span> to <span style=\"font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;\">This Is Suspense!<\/span> to <span style=\"font-style: italic;\">Strange Suspense Stories<\/span> again \u2014 and, finally, to <a href=\"http:\/\/www.comichron.com\/titlespotlights\/captainatom.html\"><span style=\"font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;\">Captain Atom<\/span><\/a>, the title under which you&#8217;ll find both series here (since they shared subscription rolls). At least when they went back to <span style=\"font-style: italic;\">Strange Suspense<\/span>, they restarted the numbering. (And there was even a <span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">Fawcett<\/span> title under the same name in the early 1950s, evidently unconnected to this numbering \u2014 just as there was an unconnected <span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">Nationwide<\/span><span style=\"font-style: italic;\"> Captain Atom<\/span>. Oy.)<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-style: italic;\">Captain Atom<\/span> included several Blue Beetle back-ups \u2014 the precursor for <span style=\"font-style: italic;\">Watchmen<\/span>&#8216;s Nite Owl. The Charlton 1960s Blue Beetle runs are even more complicated \u2014 a five-issue volume, then it hijacks the<span style=\"font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;\"> Unusual Tales<\/span> numbering from #50-54 \u2014 and then another five-issue volume. None of the stand-alone series lasted long enough to produce postal circulation statements \u2014 and while I have the 1964 Statement from <span style=\"font-style: italic; font-weight: bold;\">Blue Beetle<\/span> #50 \u2014 the figure therein, 136,036 copies sold per issue, refers to sales of <span style=\"font-style: italic;\">Unusual Tales<\/span> issues. The 1965 <span style=\"font-style: italic;\">Blue Beetle<\/span> sales would be in yet another series, <span style=\"font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;\">Ghostly Tales<\/span>, which started from #55 where B.B. left off. (This may be part of why there weren&#8217;t more Charlton collectors: It was too darn confusing!)<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-style: italic;\">Blue Beetle<\/span>&#8216;s third try did feature Ditko&#8217;s The Question, the precursor to Rorschach \u2014 but again, there were no Statements in that title. That leaves, from Watchmen, Comedian&#8217;s inspiration, Peacemaker: while Statements have been found in <span style=\"font-style: italic; font-weight: bold;\">Space War<\/span> and <span style=\"font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;\">Fightin&#8217; Five<\/span>, the title it became, none have been reported to me from issues after #40, when Peacemaker debuted. And finally, Ozymandias&#8217; antecedent, <span style=\"font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;\">Peter Cannon, Thunderbolt<\/span>; I have no Statements at all from that title, or its precursors, <span style=\"font-style: italic; font-weight: bold;\">Mysteries of Unexplored Worlds<\/span> and <span style=\"font-style: italic; font-weight: bold;\">Son of Vulcan<\/span> (the latter&#8217;s two-issue stint notable for including <span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">Roy Thomas<\/span>&#8216; first professional work, according to <span style=\"font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;\">Overstreet<\/span>).<\/p>\n<p>So a lot of blanks yet to be filled in \u2014 which readers with clear scans of Statements can do by using the<span style=\"font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 0, 0);\"> jjm [AT] comichron<\/span> address. But I doubt anyone will answer the greatest mystery of all: Why did Charlton even bother with a Second-Class Mailing permit, when it sold so few subscriptions? <span style=\"font-style: italic;\">Unusual Tales<\/span> had 11 subscribers in 1963 \u2014 and 14 in 1964 \u2014 and the other books weren&#8217;t much better. Was their subscription agent in the Witness Protection Program?<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">Addition:<\/span> I&#8217;m not the only one whose thoughts have turned to Charlton; <a href=\"http:\/\/www.fairfieldweekly.com\/article.cfm?aid=11965\"><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">check out this interesting history of the firm here<\/span><\/a>. The history starts with &#8220;The two founders of Charlton Comics met in a New Haven County jail cell 1934&#8221; \u2014 and goes from there!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I thought I&#8217;d exhausted all the answers the Comichron database potentially had on Watchmen questions \u2014 but this week is throwing some curveballs. I&#8217;ve had several requests in the last few days for information about the Charlton super-hero titles from the 1960s, specifically the characters that were the partial inspiration for the Watchmen. The challenge &#8230; <a title=\"Proto-Watchmen: Sales figures for Charlton&#8217;s hero titles\" class=\"read-more\" href=\"https:\/\/comichron.com\/blog\/2009\/03\/05\/proto-watchmen-sales-figures-for\/\" aria-label=\"Read more about Proto-Watchmen: Sales figures for Charlton&#8217;s hero titles\">Read more<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":5768,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":"","_links_to":"","_links_to_target":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[11,81,29,42,113],"class_list":["post-5767","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-uncategorized","tag-1960s-sales","tag-charlton","tag-statements-of-ownership","tag-title-spotlights","tag-watchmen"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/comichron.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5767","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/comichron.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/comichron.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/comichron.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/comichron.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=5767"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/comichron.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5767\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":5770,"href":"https:\/\/comichron.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5767\/revisions\/5770"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/comichron.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/5768"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/comichron.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=5767"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/comichron.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=5767"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/comichron.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=5767"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}