{"id":5771,"date":"2009-03-04T02:41:00","date_gmt":"2009-03-04T02:41:00","guid":{"rendered":""},"modified":"2020-07-28T03:07:32","modified_gmt":"2020-07-28T03:07:32","slug":"when-watchmen-hit-stands-best-guess","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/comichron.com\/blog\/2009\/03\/04\/when-watchmen-hit-stands-best-guess\/","title":{"rendered":"When Watchmen hit the stands: A best guess"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Having posted a piece on <a href=\"http:\/\/www.comichron.com\/special\/watchmensales.html\"><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">Watchmen&#8217;s original sales rankings in 1986-87<\/span><\/a>, comments on <span style=\"font-weight: bold;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/pwbeat.publishersweekly.com\/blog\/2009\/03\/03\/watchmen-sales-rankings\/#comments\">The Beat<\/a> <\/span>led me to do some follow-up research into when the comics actually hit the stands.<\/p>\n<p>For this, I turned to <span style=\"font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;\">Comics Buyer&#8217;s Guide<\/span>&#8216;s &#8220;Comics in Your Future&#8221; column, beginning with issue #654 (cover dated May 30, 1986). &#8220;Future&#8221; was the equivalent of the shipping lists we see from <a href=\"http:\/\/www.diamondcomics.com\/\"><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">Diamond Comic Distributors<\/span><\/a> today, and ran every two weeks in the weekly newspaper. &#8220;Future&#8221; still appears today, under that name, as part of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.cbgxtra.com\"><span style=\"font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;\">CBG<\/span>&#8216;s website.<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Now, CBG ran two dates: The date the books were to <span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">ship to distributors<\/span>, and the official <span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">on-sale date<\/span>. The ship to distributors dates were almost always Tuesdays in this period; the on-sale dates were the Thursdays 16 days later. However, my belief is that in those days, the on-sale dates related to the projected <span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">newsstand<\/span> availability date, and not the date that distributors could put the book on sale. In those days of warehouses near the printer and aggressive competition between distributors, the &#8220;ship to&#8221; date reads to me to be much closer to the real thing:<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">       Ship to distributors<\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">#1 \u2022 May 13, 1986<\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">#2 \u2022  June 20, 1986 <\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">#3 \u2022 July 8, 1986<\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">#4 \u2022 August 12, 1986<\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">#5 \u2022 September 9, 1986<\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">#6 \u2022 October 14, 1986<\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">#7 \u2022 November 11, 1986<\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">#8 \u2022 December 9, 1986<\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">#9 \u2022 January 13, 1987<\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">#10 \u2022 February 10, 1987 <\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">#11 \u2022 <\/span>(First scheduling) March 17, 1987<br \/>         (Second rescheduling) April 28, 1987<br \/><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">          (Final rescheduling) May 19, 1987<\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">#12<\/span> \u2022 <span style=\"font-weight: bold;\"> June 2, 1987<\/span><\/p>\n<p>I also have, to backstop this, my own personal collection &#8220;accession list&#8221; records from the time. It records that on September 13, 1986, I purchased <span style=\"font-style: italic;\">Watchmen<\/span> #5 (as well as <span style=\"font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;\">Batman: The Dark Knight Returns<\/span> <span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">#4<\/span>) at the June Rd. <span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">Memphis Comics &amp; Records<\/span> location, a store notable in comics history as perhaps the only comics shop located in a walk-up above a liquor store. That date is four days after the &#8220;ship to distributor&#8221; date, and it synchs with some of what I know of how the books were hitting shelves. With competition starting up that year (in the still-existent <a href=\"http:\/\/www.memphiscomics.com\/\"><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">Comics &amp; Collectibles<\/span><\/a>, which I see now has its defunct competitor&#8217;s URL), Memphis retailers were making runs to the Sparta, Ill., warehouses to pick up the shipments in person. So I would interpret those dates above as the earliest that anyone had the books; and that in one case, the book was on shelves by the next New Comics Day  \u2014 which I think was Friday, for us.<\/p>\n<p>(Not coincidentally, that Sept. 13 entry is the very last one in my four-year-long accession record history \u2014 the next week I moved off to college, got a girlfriend and otherwise got a life. Haven&#8217;t used the life much since then \u2014 as this website clearly shows \u2014 but never mind&#8230;)<\/p>\n<p>Anyway, we see from the records that as of #5, an adult warning had been added to <span style=\"font-style: italic; font-weight: bold;\">Watchmen<\/span>&#8216;s reprinted solicitations. And while I initially thought from Capital&#8217;s records that #12 had shipped late, it was in fact, #11 that was rescheduled twice. #12, with its extra pages, does not seem to have been rescheduled \u2014 at least, I can find no different date for its shipping anywhere. Yet Capital reported orders for it twice, in April and May, and evidently did not report taking a different round of orders for #11. (And then, of course, it looks like #12 comes out in June \u2014 but it doesn&#8217;t appear in the Capital list for then. Remember, the charts rank preorders, so the rankings appeared before the issue even came out!)<\/p>\n<p>It also looks, from the #11 delays, that #10 was the last issue that <span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">Glenwood Distributors<\/span> got, and that #11 would not have been impacted as much by its loss, as the stores would have had more time to find alternative distributors by then. In any event, I have revised the tables on the rankings page to reflect the new (old) information.<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s interesting reading those old newspapers to recall what was going on in the industry. <span style=\"font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;\">Watchmen<\/span> was first &#8220;cover-featured&#8221; on CBG for #658, the June 27, 1986 issue &#8212; in the form of a pictorial showing the covers from #2-4. &#8220;The covers of DC&#8217;s Watchmen are actually the first panel of each issue&#8217;s chapter, surely the first time an entire series of comic books has begun the story on the cover.&#8221; But many more of the pages of the year were devoted to the other issues of the day: <span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">Marvel<\/span> sparring over the return of <span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">Jack Kirby<\/span>&#8216;s art, <span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">Frank Miller<\/span> denying all responsibility for the many <span style=\"font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;\">Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle<\/span> clone titles, Spider-Man&#8217;s wedding, the collapse of Glenwood, and so on. <span style=\"font-style: italic;\">Watchmen<\/span> had an interesting place in a very wild year.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Having posted a piece on Watchmen&#8217;s original sales rankings in 1986-87, comments on The Beat led me to do some follow-up research into when the comics actually hit the stands. For this, I turned to Comics Buyer&#8217;s Guide&#8216;s &#8220;Comics in Your Future&#8221; column, beginning with issue #654 (cover dated May 30, 1986). &#8220;Future&#8221; was the &#8230; <a title=\"When Watchmen hit the stands: A best guess\" class=\"read-more\" href=\"https:\/\/comichron.com\/blog\/2009\/03\/04\/when-watchmen-hit-stands-best-guess\/\" aria-label=\"Read more about When Watchmen hit the stands: A best guess\">Read more<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":"","_links_to":"","_links_to_target":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[19,114,113],"class_list":["post-5771","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized","tag-1980s-sales","tag-ship-dates","tag-watchmen"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/comichron.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5771","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/comichron.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/comichron.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/comichron.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/comichron.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=5771"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/comichron.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5771\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":5772,"href":"https:\/\/comichron.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5771\/revisions\/5772"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/comichron.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=5771"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/comichron.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=5771"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/comichron.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=5771"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}